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Light vs. Heavy Armor

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Re: Light vs. Heavy Armor

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Heavy armour should provide the player an immunity to criticals, which is one thing missing from this game.

Heavy armour would certainly stand out because of this one feature
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Re: Light vs. Heavy Armor

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Osho wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:35 pm Heavy armour should provide the player an immunity to criticals, which is one thing missing from this game.

Heavy armour would certainly stand out because of this one feature
this would be a game changer for HA.
But it might make life too easy.

What I don`t like is that some mobs are conpletely crit immune. Maybe lvl 4 HA prof could make crit immune mobs only 50% resistant to crits, or something alike?
That would allow very differentiated decssions and builds ;-)
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Only Demons, Ghosts, and Constructs are immune to critical hits. You are not any of those.
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Re: Light vs. Heavy Armor

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JaSP wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:30 pm
Soullessktty wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:56 pm 0.5 would give HA an edge, so if you invest 4 pt of skill on HA you'll get bonus of 2 DR.
0.25 DR per slot and skill point means a maximum bonus of 4 DR.
I think 4 DR may be giving too much advantage to HA. WITH 2 DR it is already a good incentive to use HA, IMO.

Osho wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:35 pm Heavy armour should provide the player an immunity to criticals, which is one thing missing from this game.

Heavy armour would certainly stand out because of this one feature
I disagree. From my D&D past, crit hit is like finding a vuln spot in your defense and armor. You move in a way to hit between the armor, finding the hole in your opponent defense, or armor usually has underarm spot that may be exposed. HA surely is not covering every inches of you from head to toe with solid steel. HA doesn't make you Ironman. šŸ˜„
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Let's get back to reality guys. We will NOT be giving the HA proficiency skill the property of critical hit immunity and we are likely not going to add any more DR. What we will most likely do is introduce new items in the heavy armor category that are enhancements to what's currently available.
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rijackson741 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:48 pm Only Demons, Ghosts, and Constructs are immune to critical hits. You are not any of those.
Why can't we mortal souls have the right to be immune? :D
Some magical piece of HA would be an awesome addition. It shouldn't be easily available, but having some counter to criticals wouldn't hurt the balancing of the game IMO.

Those hirathils with criticals are a pain. It appears as if hirtathils are scripted to unleash criticals after critical hits every second or third hit. I tried a reload approach and was surprised to find the amount of critical hits made for an ECC of 20-21%. I don't get the same mileage out of criticals at that skill/percentage from critical weapons though. This could just be my misunderstanding but critical hits from monsters certainly makes me nervous Lol..
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Re: Light vs. Heavy Armor

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rijackson741 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:48 pm Only Demons, Ghosts, and Constructs are immune to critical hits. You are not any of those.
You might be interested in a Ghostly cloak for monks.
Soullessktty wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:25 pm I think 4 DR may be giving too much advantage to HA. WITH 2 DR it is already a good incentive to use HA, IMO.
No problemo: 0.125 DR per slot and skill point.
Antison wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:23 am we are likely not going to add any more DR.
Why not? The complaint is about the current situation; new items do not fix imbalance with existing items. If users believe that 2 DR in exchange of 4 skill points and wearing 4 heavy armor pieces fixes the problem, I would settle.
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Osho wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:38 am It appears as if hirtathils are scripted to unleash criticals after critical hits every second or third hit.
It's random.
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Re: Light vs. Heavy Armor

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Relieved to know. I guess it's just bad luck that I had to suffer their criticals.

I should make it clear that I was talking based on the speed run to Lodar at Level 25. It was anyways going to be tough to face Hirathils at that point in game. Ideally a 30+ Level character would be in a better position to withstand the monster attacks.
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