i am having mixed results at my level & build...
your thoughts?
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poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
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poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
In no time at all, if not already, the crit hits will way outweigh the extra swing. If you think about it you only need 1:4 of your swings to be a crit (which should be no problem because the dagger gives you 30% CC by itself) to be better than the Quickstrike, and with how tough the dudes are in there, there won't be too much overkill at a lower level. Heck, I'm 106 and I still don't one shot the Chaos Beasts.
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HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
as soon as i saw your name - i heard...Chest_Rockfield wrote:In no time at all, if not already, the crit hits will way outweigh the extra swing. If you think about it you only need 1:4 of your swings to be a crit (which should be no problem because the dagger gives you 30% CC by itself) to be better than the Quickstrike, and with how tough the dudes are in there, there won't be too much overkill at a lower level. Heck, I'm 106 and I still don't one shot the Chaos Beasts.
"criticals!" in my head

good stuff man!

but...
you get TWO extra swings with the QSD!

curiouser & curiouser...
[dont get me wrong, we voted the same]
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
The funny thing is that I didn't even use a CC weapon a single time until 6.10 and now I have the highest CC on the Highscore list. The crit hit is going to be like 2 extra hits included when it lands, plus you may land more than one of them. I guess if your AC is kinda low you're better with the extra swings...
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
lol at present i havent equipped either 
i guess later on DOSP is going to rule but who knows:D

i guess later on DOSP is going to rule but who knows:D
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Lvl: 38, XP: 1006224, Gold: 69410, RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, GoLF: 1, ChaR: 0, SHAF: 0
HP: 83, AC: 219%, AD: 24-30, AP: 3, BC: 55%, DR: -1, CC: 22%, CM: 3
Restore HP/Kill: 2
currently affected by rotworm
Lvl: 38, XP: 1006224, Gold: 69410, RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, GoLF: 1, ChaR: 0, SHAF: 0
HP: 83, AC: 219%, AD: 24-30, AP: 3, BC: 55%, DR: -1, CC: 22%, CM: 3
Restore HP/Kill: 2
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
With my current equipment available, I can get my cc to nearly 50% so the DoSP is definitely strong, but I have been using the QSD for the past few weeks and it just seemed more reliable to me.
Since you will never have a 100% guarantee to hit, no matter how high you build your AC (because of the dice roll system), I like having the extra chances to strike. I currently have level 2 of Combat Speed and wear the Jewel of Fallhaven, so I get 6 hits from the QSD, and if I need a little extra, I can take a minor potion of speed for a 7th. I use this to attack 2 at a time for the robed guys, and its enough to kill a Chaos Beast even if I miss once. If I miss twice, I usually get hit by them though.
But I like switching weapons around, and adjusting my gear to compliment the weapon so I might have to change my answer in a week or 2.
Since you will never have a 100% guarantee to hit, no matter how high you build your AC (because of the dice roll system), I like having the extra chances to strike. I currently have level 2 of Combat Speed and wear the Jewel of Fallhaven, so I get 6 hits from the QSD, and if I need a little extra, I can take a minor potion of speed for a 7th. I use this to attack 2 at a time for the robed guys, and its enough to kill a Chaos Beast even if I miss once. If I miss twice, I usually get hit by them though.
But I like switching weapons around, and adjusting my gear to compliment the weapon so I might have to change my answer in a week or 2.

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HP: 241, AP: 3, AC: 562%, AD: 116-130, CM: 3.0, ECC: 38%, BC: 139%, DR: 3
QL 25, MF 3
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HP: 241, AP: 3, AC: 562%, AD: 116-130, CM: 3.0, ECC: 38%, BC: 139%, DR: 3
QL 25, MF 3
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
I'm surprised at level 90 you still can get hit by things if you strike first. It may behoove you to give the DoSP a few swings. I don't even have that high of damage, and I one shot everything except the Chaos Beasts (and only a few damage added or a SP in CM will change that). Crit hits are sick. I can't believe I never used to use a crit weapon. I was always of the school of thought of guaranteed damage being superior to chance. (My change of heart may also have something to do with the fact that I all but eliminated the chance aspect of the crit hit, but even while I was working my way up, it felt really powerful.)Mino wrote:With my current equipment available, I can get my cc to nearly 50% so the DoSP is definitely strong, but I have been using the QSD for the past few weeks and it just seemed more reliable to me.
Since you will never have a 100% guarantee to hit, no matter how high you build your AC (because of the dice roll system), I like having the extra chances to strike. I currently have level 2 of Combat Speed and wear the Jewel of Fallhaven, so I get 6 hits from the QSD, and if I need a little extra, I can take a minor potion of speed for a 7th. I use this to attack 2 at a time for the robed guys, and its enough to kill a Chaos Beast even if I miss once. If I miss twice, I usually get hit by them though.
But I like switching weapons around, and adjusting my gear to compliment the weapon so I might have to change my answer in a week or 2.
Lvl: 162, XP: 77,249,000, Gold: 2,508,000 RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, ChaR: 18, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 2
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
Lol I'm still rocking my trusty shadow of the slayer... I musta missed the DoSP cuz iv never seen it 

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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
Did you make it through the Iqhan caves yet? They're Northeast of your home town. You have to go over some long bridges to get there and fight through what will be some significant monsters to get to it, but it will be totally worth it. Save often my friend, save often,
Lvl: 162, XP: 77,249,000, Gold: 2,508,000 RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, ChaR: 18, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 2
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: poll: QSD vs. DoSP [for iqhan grinding]
Yea I hunt the caves... love em.. haven't killed the main guy yet though... mayb he has the dagger I seek?
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