As the game goes on, Bonemeal, which was once super awesome when used in battle, is going to be as useful as trying to use bread to heal now. Mobs will hit for way more (as has been and needs to be the trend) and wasting 5AP to get 40HP will not be a good deal; you'd be better served spending that 5AP to hopefully kill what's left and then heal after the battle. This is already somewhat true. I have been in battles that I've used 2 Bonemeal potions a round for several rounds to stay alive and actually had less health (I got hit for more than the 80HP I gained the previous round) after the opponent's turn than I did after the previous opponent's turn.
A quest to either lower the AP cost to use a potion (or maybe just specifically healing potions) or a quest that would allow you to turn Bonemeal Potions into super or concentrated Bonemeal potions is something that I believe may become necessary depending on how much further/tougher the game goes (which I hope is super far to make this grinding worthwhile).
Another question I have is whether or not the Jewel of Fallhaven can possibly be Heartsteeled into including the reduction of AP for the use of potions/food.
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Quest that lets you combine potions...
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Quest that lets you combine potions...
Lvl: 162, XP: 77,249,000, Gold: 2,508,000 RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, ChaR: 18, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 2
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: Quest that lets you combine potions...
So Chest, you are feeling the effects of your decisions not to put skill points into DR or level-up BC?Chest_Rockfield wrote:As the game goes on, Bonemeal, which was once super awesome when used in battle, is going to be as useful as trying to use bread to heal now. Mobs will hit for way more (as has been and needs to be the trend) and wasting 5AP to get 40HP will not be a good deal; you'd be better served spending that 5AP to hopefully kill what's left and then heal after the battle. This is already somewhat true. I have been in battles that I've used 2 Bonemeal potions a round for several rounds to stay alive and actually had less health (I got hit for more than the 80HP I gained the previous round) after the opponent's turn than I did after the previous opponent's turn.
A quest to either lower the AP cost to use a potion (or maybe just specifically healing potions) or a quest that would allow you to turn Bonemeal Potions into super or concentrated Bonemeal potions is something that I believe may become necessary depending on how much further/tougher the game goes (which I hope is super far to make this grinding worthwhile).
Another question I have is whether or not the Jewel of Fallhaven can possibly be Heartsteeled into including the reduction of AP for the use of potions/food.

At my current BC, the Iqhan Masters, servants..etc are only hitting me at around 10%-15% of the time, plus the 4 DR helps a lot too.
My suggestion to you is pretty obvious, but I do see your point about the bonemeal.
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If you investigate the damage that they can do, as someone pointed out (I don't remember who) they can do up to 90 damage in one round WITHOUT any actor conditions. It doesn't matter how often they hit you, just what happens when they do. 5 DR won't do much if you can be getting hit for over 100 a round. And that's just what monsters can do now... Soon, as I stated, monsters will be able to hit for more than you can possibly heal in one round. IF you happen to find yourself embroiled in a nasty battle with several monsters they WILL end up getting through and you WON'T be able to heal fast enough. I obviously do not have a problem with it currently, I have over 200 HP...tek wrote: So Chest, you are feeling the effects of your decisions not to put skill points into DR or level-up BC?
At my current BC, the Iqhan Masters, servants..etc are only hitting me at around 15%-20% of the time, plus the 4 DR helps a lot too.
My suggestion to you is pretty obvious, but I do see your point about the bonemeal.
Lvl: 162, XP: 77,249,000, Gold: 2,508,000 RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, ChaR: 18, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 2
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: Quest that lets you combine potions...
That was me.Chest_Rockfield wrote: If you investigate the damage that they can do, as someone pointed out (I don't remember who) they can do up to 90 damage in one round WITHOUT any actor conditions...
Here is the link: http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1127
I just got my health to 95 (just out of range for them to 1 turn kill me), but i can already feel the extra burn as i go through my stash pretty quickly since 1 BMP isnt always enough to get back up to full health again.
Eventually stronger potions are going to be needed, i agree. I do feel that if they did make something stronger than BMP that they should be harder to get, like how Tek said he was expecting to have to get bones for every 10 Bonemeal potions.
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Re: Quest that lets you combine potions...
Can you teach me how to do that? (Link to specific posts...)
They can still one shot you if you have an actor conditionPyrizzle wrote:I just got my health to 95 (just out of range for them to 1 turn kill me), but i can already feel the extra burn as i go through my stash pretty quickly since 1 BMP isnt always enough to get back up to full health again.

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HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: Quest that lets you combine potions...
With Chaotic Grip they can do up to 40 more points of damage in one turn.Chest_Rockfield wrote: They can still one shot you if you have an actor condition
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Re: Quest that lets you combine potions...
How do you get it to scroll down the page to the exact post you are referencing?
Lvl: 162, XP: 77,249,000, Gold: 2,508,000 RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, ChaR: 18, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 2
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: Quest that lets you combine potions...
Also, it seems as though I only get hit for massive damage when I'm facing multiple creatures at once. Even though you fight them one at a time, is there anything in the code that gives them some kind of boost when they're all engaged together. Anecdotal evidence would cause me to bet significantly that they do, but I could be wrong.
Lvl: 162, XP: 77,249,000, Gold: 2,508,000 RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, ChaR: 18, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 2
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
HP: 517, AC: 333%, AD: 60-61, AP: 3, CC: 90%, CM: 3, BC: 218%, DR: 0, BMP: 4k+
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Re: Quest that lets you combine potions...
BC, BC, and more BC. Between levels 77-85, I leveled up BC to fend off their attacks. I don't suffer these massive hits enough to notice or be threatened by them.Chest_Rockfield wrote:If you investigate the damage that they can do, as someone pointed out (I don't remember who) they can do up to 90 damage in one round WITHOUT any actor conditions. It doesn't matter how often they hit you, just what happens when they do. 5 DR won't do much if you can be getting hit for over 100 a round. And that's just what monsters can do now... Soon, as I stated, monsters will be able to hit for more than you can possibly heal in one round. IF you happen to find yourself embroiled in a nasty battle with several monsters they WILL end up getting through and you WON'T be able to heal fast enough. I obviously do not have a problem with it currently, I have over 200 HP...tek wrote: So Chest, you are feeling the effects of your decisions not to put skill points into DR or level-up BC?
At my current BC, the Iqhan Masters, servants..etc are only hitting me at around 15%-20% of the time, plus the 4 DR helps a lot too.
My suggestion to you is pretty obvious, but I do see your point about the bonemeal.
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