I enjoy playing AT.
It's an interesting world.
I got the jewel of fallhaven thinking it would reduce my AP when attacking.
It does not seem to reduce AP as advertised. Is this a bug as I think it is? Am I reading JoF it incorrectly.
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I didn't pay attention to the AP since I was able to move through AT without too much difficulty.
I managed to get to Lodar's house, but it wasn't easy and I used many BM potions on the way in to Lodar's house. I'm working on "The Way Out is Through" and I do not think I can make it out with current save. (If I fall unconscious I'll wake up in Lodar's house)
Had extra time so I looked at my AP and I notice that the my AP is not down by one)
(Feel little silly since I'm at lvl 51 and only now notice issue with JoF not working.
Current stats:
Lvl 51
Total Exp 2373240
Re-equp cost (AP): 5
use Item cost (AP): 5
Move cost (AP): 6
Attack Cost (AP): 3
AC: 357
AD: 21-35
CHS: -46
BC: 101
DR: 1
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Base skills
MAX HP: 117
MAX AP: 10
Re-equip cost (AP) 5
Use item AP 5
Move AP 6
Attack cost (AP) 4
AC: 215
AD: 19
BC: 3
Wearing
BW leather cap
BW leather Armour
Jewel of Fallhaven
2 BW daggers
2 BW ring of combat
Troublemaker's gloves
Enhanced combat boots
I'm using Nokia 7.1 phone with Android 9 (π) OS
Completed quests: 55
places visited 462
Au spent in shops 95682
For now, I am slowing working to level up and improve my BC.
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JoF not working
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Re: JoF not working
It reduces your weapon's AP cost. Example, If your weapon cost is 5AP, then the JoF makes it 4ap.
"A home without a beagle is just a house"
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Re: JoF not working
Your base attack cost is 4, your attack cost with equipment is 3. Where's the problem?
Level:75, XP:7656192, PV:866, FQ:105
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
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Re: JoF not working
I guess my confusion is from looking at the weapon information.rijackson741 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:57 pm Your base attack cost is 4, your attack cost with equipment is 3. Where's the problem?
BW dagger
Rare
Category dagger
ACost: 3
AChance: 40
AD: 1
Increase BC by 5
BW misery
My understanding is that the dagger has an ACost of 3. With JoF it would go to 2
I thought that it would lower the ACost of any weapon by 1.
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Re: JoF not working
BW misery increases attack cost by 1 

Level:75, XP:7656192, PV:866, FQ:105
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
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Re: JoF not working
Thanks for the explanation.
Just experimented. Removed everything with BW misery and put the QSD on.
It had a AP of 2 instead of regular AP of 3.
Thanks to all for quick replies.
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Re: JoF not working
Well if this isnt a typo then you really are confused bro. JoF will reduce AC (attack cost) and not AP (Action points)Mithrandir wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:15 pm
It does not seem to reduce AP as advertised. Is this a bug as I think it is? Am I reading JoF it incorrectly.
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Re: JoF not working
Actually, you've gotten confused. AP is Action Points, and JoF reduces the number of AP required to attack, not the number available to you. Yes, that's overpowered. AC is Attack Chance, which is likelihood to hit on a given swing, which JoF does not affect.Aulrad wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:37 amWell if this isnt a typo then you really are confused bro. JoF will reduce AC (attack cost) and not AP (Action points)Mithrandir wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:15 pm
It does not seem to reduce AP as advertised. Is this a bug as I think it is? Am I reading JoF it incorrectly.
Norbert
Lvl:52 XP:2597576 AP:12 HP:124 AC:282 AD:30-42 CHS:27 CM:2.0 ECC:18% BC:132 DR:2
Skills: CS:2 IF:2 Ev:3 Rg:1 DgPro:1 1HPro:2 LtAPro:2 FS-DW:2 Sp-DW:1
Equip: FP BSS JoF RoP PRoB SrpHbk GoLF EnhCH EnhCB
Other: DotSP VD GoW FB TG RoD+6 Oegyth:6
Lvl:52 XP:2597576 AP:12 HP:124 AC:282 AD:30-42 CHS:27 CM:2.0 ECC:18% BC:132 DR:2
Skills: CS:2 IF:2 Ev:3 Rg:1 DgPro:1 1HPro:2 LtAPro:2 FS-DW:2 Sp-DW:1
Equip: FP BSS JoF RoP PRoB SrpHbk GoLF EnhCH EnhCB
Other: DotSP VD GoW FB TG RoD+6 Oegyth:6
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Re: JoF not working
Well there are really 2 ACs
The Attack cost
And the Attack chance
The abbreviation for the first one was invented by me

sorry for that
The Attack cost
And the Attack chance
The abbreviation for the first one was invented by me
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Re: JoF not working
We could use A$, M$, and E$ for attack cost, movement cost and equip cost respectively.
Lvl: 78, XP: 8622632, Gold: 271542, RoLS: 1, ElyR: -, RoL: -, ChaR: 1, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, WMC: 1, GoW: 1
HP: 71, AC: 301%, AD: 38-47, AP: 3, ECC: 50%, CM: 3.75, BC: 101%, DR: 2
HP: 71, AC: 301%, AD: 38-47, AP: 3, ECC: 50%, CM: 3.75, BC: 101%, DR: 2