Andor's Trail

OP, it's just a game, enjoy it and have fun instead of forcing your build onto others. I build my char for my own amusement, I wont list it here but it is pretty high level compared to other chars. I've been playing for months, the game change from build to build, there is no best build until the game is 100% done, wich it wont be anytime soon.

To cloudrain1:
You still don't have a RolS, after a whole four levels! Patience, my friend. I am getting impatient, but I started somewhere in the mid-20s also, and am now level 55 (or did I reach 56?), and have 5751 small rocks, and do not yet have a RolS. If you wonder what rocks have to do with it, rocks drop 1 of 4 trainer/master kills, RolS drop 1 of 10,000; so you should collect 2,500 small rocks during the killing of 10,000 trainers and masters and theoretically get one RolS for every 2,500 rocks. But all those numbers are averages, and one can kill well over 20,000 monsters and still not have a ring. (All but 1.5 of those additional levels were almost exclusively spent killing trainers/masters in the gargoyle cave.) I did the BWM new content and am now trying for the EylR, which I hope to get before killing 20,000 of the wyrm trainers and apprentices.
I am not trying for sympathy so much as trying to bring a dose of reality to your expectations. Though a little sympathy would be not be refused! The only post I have seen of higher rocks accumulated without a ring drop is the 9000-some rocks between ctnbeh13's 3rd and 4th, if he has a 4th, rings. Now that is patience!

lady black wrote:To cloudrain1:
You still don't have a RolS, after a whole four levels! Patience, my friend. I am getting impatient, but I started somewhere in the mid-20s also, and am now level 55 (or did I reach 56?), and have 5751 small rocks, and do not yet have a RolS. If you wonder what rocks have to do with it, rocks drop 1 of 4 trainer/master kills, RolS drop 1 of 10,000; so you should collect 2,500 small rocks during the killing of 10,000 trainers and masters and theoretically get one RolS for every 2,500 rocks. But all those numbers are averages, and one can kill well over 20,000 monsters and still not have a ring. (All but 1.5 of those additional levels were almost exclusively spent killing trainers/masters in the gargoyle cave.) I did the BWM new content and am now trying for the EylR, which I hope to get before killing 20,000 of the wyrm trainers and apprentices.
I am not trying for sympathy so much as trying to bring a dose of reality to your expectations. Though a little sympathy would be not be refused! The only post I have seen of higher rocks accumulated without a ring drop is the 9000-some rocks between ctnbeh13's 3rd and 4th, if he has a 4th, rings. Now that is patience!

That sucks, at least you have gained a ton of XP in the process. I hope one comes your way soon (& mine too).

Skuggan wrote:OP, it's just a game, enjoy it and have fun instead of forcing your build onto others. I build my char for my own amusement, I wont list it here but it is pretty high level compared to other chars. I've been playing for months, the game change from build to build, there is no best build until the game is 100% done, wich it wont be anytime soon.

I am not the "OP", and I was not forcing anything on anyone. We were having a small debate about the usefulness of the ROLS, but that was it.

lady black wrote:To cloudrain1:
You still don't have a RolS, after a whole four levels! Patience, my friend. I am getting impatient, but I started somewhere in the mid-20s also, and am now level 55 (or did I reach 56?), and have 5751 small rocks, and do not yet have a RolS. If you wonder what rocks have to do with it, rocks drop 1 of 4 trainer/master kills, RolS drop 1 of 10,000; so you should collect 2,500 small rocks during the killing of 10,000 trainers and masters and theoretically get one RolS for every 2,500 rocks. But all those numbers are averages, and one can kill well over 20,000 monsters and still not have a ring. (All but 1.5 of those additional levels were almost exclusively spent killing trainers/masters in the gargoyle cave.) I did the BWM new content and am now trying for the EylR, which I hope to get before killing 20,000 of the wyrm trainers and apprentices.
I am not trying for sympathy so much as trying to bring a dose of reality to your expectations. Though a little sympathy would be not be refused! The only post I have seen of higher rocks accumulated without a ring drop is the 9000-some rocks between ctnbeh13's 3rd and 4th, if he has a 4th, rings. Now that is patience!

I also wish all the best of luck in this matter, I have spent some time there as well, but but that long. May the ring be with you...

I am running an experiment right now about the RoLS. I should be able to finish it tomorrow morning and post my findings for discussion. If my theory is correct, however, there won't be much to talk about.

Chest_Rockfield wrote:I am running an experiment right now about the RoLS. I should be able to finish it tomorrow morning and post my findings for discussion. If my theory is correct, however, there won't be much to talk about.

I am curious to know what your theory is. I will be checking the boards tomorrow.

I am as well.

It will be a new topic, something to the effect of, "Putting the RoLS debate to rest". I'm half done, I just had to get some sleep.

tuner240 wrote: I am not the "OP", and I was not forcing anything on anyone. We were having a small debate about the usefulness of the ROLS, but that was it.

Sorry if I made it look like I was replying to you, I replied to the OP.

Skuggan wrote:

tuner240 wrote: I am not the "OP", and I was not forcing anything on anyone. We were having a small debate about the usefulness of the ROLS, but that was it.

Sorry if I made it look like I was replying to you, I replied to the OP.

My apologies...