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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:47 pm
by Usirim
For low level Chars the QSD is not very worthfull:
> too low BC leads to hore hits from eneies if you can't kill them within one round, which is unlikely when your Char is not overpowered compared to the enemy
> against enemies with DR it is useless, when the result of real damage multiplied with no. of attacks is lower for QSD compared with a weapon like the stainless steel sword or the RoL.

For a high level Char nearly any weapon is overpowered: it doesn't really matter which weapon is used by a level 100 Char.

So my opion is: let the QSD as it is.
IF there is a need for battle changes I would rather discuss a change of the fight system itself (if the community is interested in new ideas I can introduce some and give an overview for the edges and draws).

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:59 am
by Ihminen
Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:37 am
by jericdsons
Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:42 am
by Pyrizzle
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!

nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items :)

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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:36 pm
by phydeaux
Qsd is the strongest weapon in the game, once you have the levels to back it up... Not including crits, once you have a base damage of 15 you have a higher possible damage per round than any other weapon, but you also have to have the defense & accuracy to back it up... So I say leave it as it is! Especially since you have to be around level 25-30 and on the right build path before it really takes over as the best weapon in the game. imho :D

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:44 pm
by Sarumar
Pyrizzle wrote:
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...

Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!

nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items :)

You can add your stats to your signature
User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature
Welcom to the forums and to the highscore board too (after you are added your stats on your signature).

http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... =highscore

Nice build ;)


good huntind

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:21 pm
by Mino
Pyrizzle wrote:
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!

nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items :)

You can add your stats to your signature
User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature
:?: I think that's my build, it looks to be exactly the same as my signature.

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:34 pm
by Sarumar
Mino wrote:
Pyrizzle wrote:
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...

Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!

nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items :)

You can add your stats to your signature
User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature
:?: I think that's my build, it looks to be exactly the same as my signature.
hmmm ... :evil: .... stealing signatures is unpardonable crime.... This forum is only the place where we can trust each other

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:22 pm
by nyktos
@Mino & Sarumar:
i think i see what's going on here...


first post: says -20% BC is a lot...
Ihminen wrote:Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
second post is showing a high level character with 27% BC...
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
note: it's not a part of his signature...
Pyrizzle wrote:You can add your stats to your signature
User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature
sounds like a simple communication problem...
so, no worries.

:D

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:17 pm
by Piggy the Slayer
This is a very interesting thread. The dagger is a perfectly balanced trade off in order to get an extra attack.