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Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Unstructured ideas, requests and suggestions for the development of the game.

Is the Quickstrike Dagger now overpowered?

yes
5
15%
no
20
59%
it could be changed, but i like it as is
4
12%
I don't care either way / i dont use it
5
15%
 
Total votes: 34

Usirim
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by Usirim »

For low level Chars the QSD is not very worthfull:
> too low BC leads to hore hits from eneies if you can't kill them within one round, which is unlikely when your Char is not overpowered compared to the enemy
> against enemies with DR it is useless, when the result of real damage multiplied with no. of attacks is lower for QSD compared with a weapon like the stainless steel sword or the RoL.

For a high level Char nearly any weapon is overpowered: it doesn't really matter which weapon is used by a level 100 Char.

So my opion is: let the QSD as it is.
IF there is a need for battle changes I would rather discuss a change of the fight system itself (if the community is interested in new ideas I can introduce some and give an overview for the edges and draws).
Usirim (v2.2):
Lvl: 200
XP: 145.569.369
Gold: 5.8M
RoLS: 17
ElyR: 9
RoL: 6
ChaR: 9
GoLF: 2
ShaF: 7
SRoV: 15
VSH: 7
WMC: 12
GoW: 6

Base values
HP: 1000
AC: 280
AD: 90
max AP: 10 (12)
BC: 180%
DR: 0
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by Ihminen »

Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by jericdsons »

Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
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IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by Pyrizzle »

jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
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IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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Lvl:24XP:244KAP:2/10HP:80AC: 189%AD:13-21CHS:-6CM: 0BC: 20%DR:2
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by phydeaux »

Qsd is the strongest weapon in the game, once you have the levels to back it up... Not including crits, once you have a base damage of 15 you have a higher possible damage per round than any other weapon, but you also have to have the defense & accuracy to back it up... So I say leave it as it is! Especially since you have to be around level 25-30 and on the right build path before it really takes over as the best weapon in the game. imho :D
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by Sarumar »

Pyrizzle wrote:
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...

Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!

nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items :)

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Welcom to the forums and to the highscore board too (after you are added your stats on your signature).

http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... =highscore

Nice build ;)


good huntind
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Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by Mino »

Pyrizzle wrote:
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!

nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items :)

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:?: I think that's my build, it looks to be exactly the same as my signature.
Lvl: 206 XP: 159262572, Gold: 1657119, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 6, SRoV: 1, VSH: 6, WMC: 1, GoW: 1
HP: 241, AP: 3, AC: 562%, AD: 116-130, CM: 3.0, ECC: 38%, BC: 139%, DR: 3

QL 25, MF 3

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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by Sarumar »

Mino wrote:
Pyrizzle wrote:
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...

Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!

nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items :)

You can add your stats to your signature
User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature
:?: I think that's my build, it looks to be exactly the same as my signature.
hmmm ... :evil: .... stealing signatures is unpardonable crime.... This forum is only the place where we can trust each other
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Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by nyktos »

@Mino & Sarumar:
i think i see what's going on here...


first post: says -20% BC is a lot...
Ihminen wrote:Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
second post is showing a high level character with 27% BC...
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...


Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
note: it's not a part of his signature...
Pyrizzle wrote:You can add your stats to your signature
User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature
sounds like a simple communication problem...
so, no worries.

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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?

Post by Piggy the Slayer »

This is a very interesting thread. The dagger is a perfectly balanced trade off in order to get an extra attack.
Level:145 AC: 428% BC:170% DR:4 AD:78-90 AP:12 HP:750 BSS.
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