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Re: ring of lesser Shadow

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:47 pm
by Oet
Doni G wrote::D Hah, I finally got my RoLS with my new level 1 character build. I guess I was quite lucky to get it with only 1647 kills of shadow gargoyle trainers+masters and 447 small rocks :D
Congrats! I'll try to get it on my level one build aswell.

Oet wrote:[...]
I got a RoLS the other day, took me around 1100 kills!
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I got my second one yesterday or if it was 2 days ago, after just 400 more kills.
So, 2 RoLS in 1500 kills, is that some kind of super luck?

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Re: ring of lesser Shadow

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:43 pm
by Covenant
Doni G wrote::D Hah, I finally got my RoLS with my new level 1 character build. I guess I was quite lucky to get it with only 1647 kills of shadow gargoyle trainers+masters and 447 small rocks :D
Nice work. You'll want to keep a copy of that savegame file for future use.

Re: ring of lesser Shadow

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:24 am
by Pyrizzle
Covenant wrote:
Doni G wrote::D Hah, I finally got my RoLS with my new level 1 character build. I guess I was quite lucky to get it with only 1647 kills of shadow gargoyle trainers+masters and 447 small rocks :D
Nice work. You'll want to keep a copy of that savegame file for future use.
BE CAREFUL NOT TO ACCIDENTALLY SAVE OVER IT!

Nice job! I bet that extra save file will be very handy later on.

Ring of Lessor Shadow frustration

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:25 pm
by dudest_of_the_dudes
I know I'm beating a dead horse here but man its a pain going after one of these darn ROL's and I want two!
I'm already 422 Ruby, 263 Small Rocks, 90 Polished Gems into this darn thing. Killed me 667 Shadow Gargoyle Trainers / 352 Shadow Gargoyle Masters. Got my Magic Finder skill rocking at 2!
My question or issue is why make it so hard to get these rare items? I could see making it difficult if we were playing a version of the game that had us in direct competition with other players but its a one man show kind of game. My getting these items would effect no other player. Don't get me wrong... I want to put in a little work to get the items say maybe having to rerun the cave 10 to 20 time.... but it looks like I might have to do it 200 or more times! It takes away from the game flow. I might have to spend two weeks real time playing the same area and that makes the game no fun.

I'm hoping they are going to make either a sling or a sling shot weapon for all these small rocks I'm collecting!
Just venting.....
Now back to grinding!

Re: Ring of Life Steal flustration

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:20 pm
by PK17
It isn't ring of life steal it is the 'Ring of Lesser Shadow'

Yeah it sucks, but nobody is making you go for it. it isn't needed to complete the game, do quests, or to obtain any other items. These items were created so the hardcore players could have something to strive for between updates.

Also, I havn't gone for a second rols since my first build. The 'shadow regeneration" (heals one hp per turn (6 seconds)) does not stack so even with 2 RoLS you will still only heal 1 hp per turn. The only benefit of having two is a critical hit bonus and bragging rights. I think the RoLS and the 'Polished ring of back-stabbing' make a deadly combo.

Re: Ring of Life Steal flustration

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:21 pm
by Oet
That's what make them Legendary. They are hard to obtain.

Now, if you don't feel like it's worth the time, don't collect it. It is not so much better then, for example, Villians ring.

Re: Ring of Lessor Shadow frustration

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:35 am
by gladson1976
One thing to keep in mind when grinding for a legendary item is that the chance of getting it is quite low 1/10000, and the chance doesn't increase or decrease when you kill more and more of the specific monsters. Which means, the chance of getting it in the first kill is 1/10000, the chance of getting it in the second kill is still 1/10000 and the chance of getting it in the 10000th kill is also 1/10000. It definitely doesn't mean that you WILL get it within 10000 kills. You could even go till 50000 kills without getting one or you could get 2 in the first 5 kills.
It all depends on pure luck.

Re: Ring of Lessor Shadow frustration

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:30 am
by PK17
Well RJJackson actually had an interesting chart regarding how your chances change the more you kill and the better your MF skill. If I come across it, I'll post a link... or if someone else finds it please post it.

Re: Ring of Lessor Shadow frustration

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:04 am
by sorrow
Also keep in mind most of the player's that are trying for these items are waiting for the next update. With that said I suggest beating everything in the game so far then when your done there go back for l/e items

Re: Ring of Lessor Shadow frustration

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:52 pm
by fiernaq
Chances, schmances. It is what it is. Every monster you kill rolls a 10,000 sided die and only one spot on that die will give you a shiny new RoLS. So yes, theoretically, you could roll forever and never get the drop or you could get lucky and strike gold on your first kill or anything in between. It sucks but like others have said, 1) These items are not mentioned in-game so only those interested enough or bored enough to look on the forums would find out about them and 2) They aren't needed, other items are nearly as good and sometimes better than some of the legendary/extraordinary items. If the grind is too much, don't grind. It won't kill you (most of the time) to not have that legendary item you really, really want.