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Re: regeneration vs corpse eater

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:05 pm
by fiernaq
I took IF at lvl 5 and by the time I hit lvl 20 I had the base HP requirement for CE met without having to use any lvl ups on HP. While it would've been nice to have CE earlier than that it didn't really slow down my progression at all. I probably killed a few more snakes than normal and had to eat meat a few times to stay alive but CE and regen aren't needed to progress... just nice to have.

Re: fading with decreasing hp

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:40 pm
by fiernaq
Idea: CE gives +1 HP and random (+10%AC, +10%BC, +1DR, or +__CC) 3 round actor condition that can stack 3 times. This would promote killing things fast in order to keep your stacks up.

Example: kill mob 1, gain +1 HP and a +10% BC 3 round cond. 2 Rounds later you kill another mob, gain another +1 HP and a +1 DR cond and your BC cond is refreshed (it would show as one actor condition but the benefits could change). You wander around aimlessly for 4 rounds and your stacks wear off so now you have to get them again.

Re: regeneration vs corpse eater

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:49 pm
by fiernaq
Duplicate post now that the other one has been moved here. Can be deleted :lol:

Re: fading with decreasing hp

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:52 pm
by Meirerion
fiernaq wrote:Idea: CE gives +1 HP and random (+10%AC, +10%BC, +1DR, or +__CC) 3 round actor condition that can stack 3 times. This would promote killing things fast in order to keep your stacks up.

Example: kill mob 1, gain +1 HP and a +10% BC 3 round cond. 2 Rounds later you kill another mob, gain another +1 HP and a +1 DR cond and your BC cond is refreshed (it would show as one actor condition but the benefits could change). You wander around aimlessly for 4 rounds and your stacks wear off so now you have to get them again.
Great idea, if you level up corps eater it gives more rounds and more hp.
I.e:
CE1: 1HP + random effect actor cond. 3 rounds
CE2: 2HP + random effect actor cond. 4 rounds

Maybe you can even add a weak regen in the random actor conditions (1 hp/3 rounds).
It would change corpse eater to a really aggressive skill.
I can already imagine myself rushing trough a low-level dungeon berserk style.

Re: regeneration vs corpse eater

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:45 pm
by Pyrizzle
And / OR:

Corspe Eater: Gain +XX HP on each kill

but there is a XX% chance of Necro Poison (X rounds)

Necro Poison: -10 to your max HP


Eating corpses cannot be good for a growing adventurer

Re: regeneration vs corpse eater

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:01 am
by SirGrindsalot
aah yes, the joys of speculation;

as of now, Regen > CE. CE will only give you 1 hp per mob, Regen will give you all the HP you care to wait for, which is (i guess) how most folks actually get through BWM.

By the time regen becomes too slow, CE becomes useless as well. Every 10 or so brutes i take down, i'll take 1-2 critical hits and need to drink a BMP or two, and if you are grinding tiny creatures like wolves and frogs, you're not going to be concerned anyway so CE is pretty much useless - it just looks nice in some hp/regen/slayer builds.

Unfortunately any "alternative build" < "extra damage/AC build" so ...

Re: regeneration vs corpse eater

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:20 pm
by Sarumar
Pyrizzle wrote:And / OR:

Corspe Eater: Gain +XX HP on each kill

but there is a XX% chance of Necro Poison (X rounds)

Necro Poison: -10 to your max HP

Eating corpses cannot be good for a growing adventurer
I don't like this because of I cannot get rid of this skill. Which I want to do if there are any negative feedback. And IMO fres meat... hmmm :twisted:
SirGrindsalot wrote:aah yes, the joys of speculation;

as of now, Regen > CE. CE will only give you 1 hp per mob, Regen will give you all the HP you care to wait for, which is (i guess) how most folks actually get through BWM.

By the time regen becomes too slow, CE becomes useless as well. Every 10 or so brutes i take down, i'll take 1-2 critical hits and need to drink a BMP or two, and if you are grinding tiny creatures like wolves and frogs, you're not going to be concerned anyway so CE is pretty much useless - it just looks nice in some hp/regen/slayer builds.

Unfortunately any "alternative build" < "extra damage/AC build" so ...
I disagree ;) In cace of high level build CE is nice... you dont need use any healing potions :twisted:

Re: regeneration vs corpse eater

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:06 am
by Pyrizzle
Sarumar wrote:I don't like this because of I cannot get rid of this skill. Which I want to do if there are any negative feedback. And IMO fres meat... hmmm
I don't want it added either, but eating corpses cannot be good for you.
Sarumar wrote:I disagree In cace of high level build CE is nice... you dont need use any healing potions
I agree with you! It works even better if you have gotten lucky enough to get a ROL. :mrgreen:

Re: regeneration vs corpse eater

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:49 pm
by Mino
It was mentioned before in another topic that "corpse eater" was just the name of the skill and not a description of how it works.