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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:25 pm
by nyktos
Chest_Rockfield wrote:Don't get me wrong, the community as a whole I believe is very grateful to you for your experiments and sharing your experiences with the rest of us to help us make decisions. I was just pointing out a disadvantage that is not readily apparent because it is somewhat extrinsic of the mechanics of the game. I am very interested to hear everything you've learned about Evasion since you last spoke of it. I'm thinking that may be something I want on my dude.
So that I don't get yelled at: for your current build, however, the RoL and RoLS together may end up saving you a lot of time you'd lose not being able to one shot stuff by reducing the amount of time you'd have to spend buying Bonemeal and using it.
yes! combined with bark skin, regen and corspe eater...
i heal faster than wolverine, and NO potions (well, almost)
never hesitate to correct me, or heavily question whats said...
i wont get all bent outta shape - i actually enjoy serious (friendly) debate.

good stuff!
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:41 pm
by Sarumar
mjach wrote:Samuel wrote:tek wrote:Don't waste your time on the RoL . IMO, its not worth the effort.
IMO it's worth it. I almost never use potions. (I don't need stats anyway.)
But it's hard in BWM and the new iqhan cave with only 2 hits.
That`s the result of my build (it is DEFENSIVE - I see rather unpopluar here) but with levelling only bark-skin and regeneration in skill levels I do not need potions already (20 lvl) with gargoyle cave.
And I will definitely go for both life-stealing weapon and imp`s stats just after being fed up with ROLS seeking.
ROL is usefull but there are some major penalty too:
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 8040#p8040
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:06 am
by lady black
Good grief! I somehow don't make it to the forum for about two weeks (maybe three), and there is so much to catch up on that I have been here all weekend. As I have been talked about, I'll try to bring you up-to-date on my RoLS-less status. I stopped grinding for it at 7501 small rocks, to wait for the skill points. Put 2 points into magic finder. Currently have 8356, which is 855 rocks toward the 1250 that is now my "should have a ring by" number. And, of course, no ring. I guess I need to change my location to the Too cool for the RoLS Club. And I would be honored to be the president, unless somebody else wants the position. There are other ringless people higher on the high-score list, but some of them have not been trying to get it, and therefore would not qualify.
I have a question about the 500 weak poisons as a measure for the ElyR. Is that wp drops, or vials of poison? Since each poison drop can yield 1-3 vials of poison, assuming the average is 2 vials/drop we get 1000 vials if the 500 refers to the drop frequency. As I went to the mountaintop and started killing wyrm trainers and apprentices when I left the gargoyle cave, and I have collected 501 vials of poison, I would like to know whether I "should" have a Redeemer by now or am only halfway to that point. (I don't have one yet, but that does not mean anything.)
I am not sure when I stopped using potions. I have definitely not used any except for the Irquan cave since the skill points, when I put 1 each into regeneration and fortitude, but I was making a large profit in regular potions of health in the gargoyle cave for a long time, though I was using some of them. And I was running at a loss on BWM, using more than I collected there. Even fully equipped with potions, I died once (maybe twice) in the Irquan cave. That notorious trio at the gate. And now I think I am just about caught up on the forum and can get back to the game.
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:17 am
by Pyrizzle
lady black wrote: I guess I need to change my location to the Too cool for the RoLS Club. And I would be honored to be the president, unless somebody else wants the position. There are other ringless people higher on the high-score list, but some of them have not been trying to get it, and therefore would not qualify.
Oh thank you for reminding me, AS MY LAST ACT OF PRESIDENT FOR THE TOO COOL FOR ROLS CLUB: I now name Lady Black as protege and now i I officially step down as president (okay maybe that was 2 things).
I am still rooting for you Lady Black! You are pretty close to the mark for small rocks with your magic finder. Its gotta be a corpse or two away. According to your earlier post you are 395 rocks away from the Small Rocks marker. I think it will come earlier than 395 more.
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:21 am
by lady black
Thank you, Pyrizzle, for both the presidency and the good wishes. I wish that I was sure that I would get it that soon. I no longer really expect to get it at all, I just hope for it. I cringe a bit every time someone posts something like: You may never get one at all.
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:28 am
by Pyrizzle
lady black wrote:Thank you, Pyrizzle, for both the presidency and the good wishes. I wish that I was sure that I would get it that soon. I no longer really expect to get it at all, I just hope for it. I cringe a bit every time someone posts something like: You may never get one at all.
Must i remind you of the post i made in June (i think) about how i thought i was gonna get it soon.
We all know how that one turned out for me.
Take good care of the club for me and be sure to name a prodege and cross your fingers. You can't keep the club forever, that's the joy of being El Presidente'. The next president should be the person with the next highest rocks but no RoLS (that way it keeps changing hands quicky).
We are all hoping with you. Sending you all my good luck! It
will come, I am sure of it.
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:39 pm
by sdevaney
I also do not have a RoLS yet. Level 43, 4927 rocks and counting.
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:32 pm
by lady black
Then come join the club, just put the club name as your location. It's really easy--we never even have meetings to waste your time!
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:27 pm
by Diomedes
IMO, keep the drop rates for legendary and extraordinary items the same. However, please increase the effectiveness of the find magic skill. I have seven levels on this skill and I’m still having a difficult time finding items. My character should be more effectively finding items with 28 levels of practice (1 skill/4 levels).
Also, could you include more non-weapon, legendary and extraordinary items? I have two RoLS rings so that helps, but I have all the weapons, save for one weapon, that I cannot use at the same time.
Finally, why do I not heal at two HPs/6 sec. while I'm wearing 2 RoLS rings? I only heal at the rate of one HP.
Great game! Thank You!
Lvl: 60, XP: 3864473, Gold: 395251, RoLS: 2, ElyR:1, RoL: 0, ChaR: 5, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 1
HP: 97, AC: 232%, AD: 25-32, AP: 4, CC: 79%, CM: 3.0, BC: 101%, DR: 0
Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:04 pm
by Antison
Diomedes wrote:IMO, keep the drop rates for legendary and extraordinary items the same. However, please increase the effectiveness of the find magic skill. I have seven levels on this skill and I’m still having a difficult time finding items. My character should be more effectively finding items with 28 levels of practice (1 skill/4 levels).
Also, could you include more non-weapon, legendary and extraordinary items? I have two RoLS rings so that helps, but I have all the weapons, save for one weapon, that I cannot use at the same time.
Finally, why do I not heal at two HPs/6 sec. while I'm wearing 2 RoLS rings? I only heal at the rate of one HP.
Great game! Thank You!
Lvl: 60, XP: 3864473, Gold: 395251, RoLS: 2, ElyR:1, RoL: 0, ChaR: 5, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 1
HP: 97, AC: 232%, AD: 25-32, AP: 4, CC: 79%, CM: 3.0, BC: 101%, DR: 0
Regeneration from RoLS is not stackable. This has been discussed in the past, please search for further info.