Actually, I think BW Set is overpowered when combined with weapon and light armor proficiencies, plus Dual Wield. It gives you all the AC and BC you need, so you can put every level upgrade into AD, and be able to do high damage on a medium level already (lvl 30~50).
I did create a character that I did put every level upgrade into AD. When it did reach level 30, I did get Dual Wield maxed, sword prof to 3/3 and light armor to 2/3, then put BW set... I was strong enough to kill Hira'zinn without much trouble.
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Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
- marquinho
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
Tarobinha Lv52 Blackwater Thief
AP:12/3 HP:134 AC:309% AD:47-52, CHS:-49, BC:182%, DR:1
IF:3, CS:2, MF:1, S:DW, DP:3, LAP:3
BWH, BWA, BWD:2, Mt, RotP, RoLS, GotG, ECB
GoW:1
There is no honor among thieves.
AP:12/3 HP:134 AC:309% AD:47-52, CHS:-49, BC:182%, DR:1
IF:3, CS:2, MF:1, S:DW, DP:3, LAP:3
BWH, BWA, BWD:2, Mt, RotP, RoLS, GotG, ECB
GoW:1
There is no honor among thieves.
- rijackson741
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
That's an interesting take on it. I have always thought of it as underpowered, especially the BW ring of combat. But I guess I have only looked at it as a possibility fairly early on in the game, before you get the proficiency skills. At some point I want to add BW boots, although you will not be able to get them at BWM. Which BW weapon do you play with?
Level:75, XP:7656192, PV:866, FQ:105
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
- T-rex2298
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
Is it possible to get into a situation where you can't help either, because I think I have. Both settlement leader don't want to talk to me. 

Love at first bite.
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
- Zukero
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- android_version: 8.0
- Location: Eclipse
Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
Yes. If you are trying hard not to kill anyone, then you end up being trusted by no one.
Lvl: 78, XP: 8622632, Gold: 271542, RoLS: 1, ElyR: -, RoL: -, ChaR: 1, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, WMC: 1, GoW: 1
HP: 71, AC: 301%, AD: 38-47, AP: 3, ECC: 50%, CM: 3.75, BC: 101%, DR: 2
HP: 71, AC: 301%, AD: 38-47, AP: 3, ECC: 50%, CM: 3.75, BC: 101%, DR: 2
- T-rex2298
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
Rats there goes two hours of gameplay.
Love at first bite.
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
- rijackson741
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
And if you end up in that situation, there is another quest that you can't start.
Level:75, XP:7656192, PV:866, FQ:105
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
- T-rex2298
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
All sorted out, backed track 5 levels. Lucky I saved it.
And thanks for replying so quickly, keep up the good work.
And thanks for replying so quickly, keep up the good work.
Love at first bite.
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
- Antison
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
Too bad it came to this. Whom did you side with?T-rex2298 wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:55 pm All sorted out, backed track 5 levels. Lucky I saved it.
And thanks for replying so quickly, keep up the good work.
"A home without a beagle is just a house"
- T-rex2298
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
Prim settlement, I don't think I had any other choice where I had saved it from. All done now, nearly at level 28 again. 

Love at first bite.
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
Operation Shadowslay.
Maturity: Completed! For the one ring has been found, and with it, our path to the divine beyond, guaranteed!
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Re: Prim & Blackwater Area Quests
Rip my character, just accidentally did this and am losing 5 levels,
It really has been tooooo long

Lvl: 32 | XP: 603484 | AP: 12/5 | HP: 95 | AC: 175% | AD: 31-55 | CHS: -10 | CM: - | BC: 72% | DR: 0
WA: 1 | HH: 1 | CS: 2 | IF: 2 | AP:H: 1 | FS:2H: 2 | DBoS: 1
King of Thieves
WA: 1 | HH: 1 | CS: 2 | IF: 2 | AP:H: 1 | FS:2H: 2 | DBoS: 1
King of Thieves