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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:47 pm
by Usirim
For low level Chars the QSD is not very worthfull:
> too low BC leads to hore hits from eneies if you can't kill them within one round, which is unlikely when your Char is not overpowered compared to the enemy
> against enemies with DR it is useless, when the result of real damage multiplied with no. of attacks is lower for QSD compared with a weapon like the stainless steel sword or the RoL.
For a high level Char nearly any weapon is overpowered: it doesn't really matter which weapon is used by a level 100 Char.
So my opion is: let the QSD as it is.
IF there is a need for battle changes I would rather discuss a change of the fight system itself (if the community is interested in new ideas I can introduce some and give an overview for the edges and draws).
Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:59 am
by Ihminen
Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:37 am
by jericdsons
Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:42 am
by Pyrizzle
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:36 pm
by phydeaux
Qsd is the strongest weapon in the game, once you have the levels to back it up... Not including crits, once you have a base damage of 15 you have a higher possible damage per round than any other weapon, but you also have to have the defense & accuracy to back it up... So I say leave it as it is! Especially since you have to be around level 25-30 and on the right build path before it really takes over as the best weapon in the game. imho

Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:44 pm
by Sarumar
Pyrizzle wrote:jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items
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Welcom to the forums and to the highscore board too (after you are added your stats on your signature).
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... =highscore
Nice build
good huntind
Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:21 pm
by Mino
Pyrizzle wrote:jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!
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I think that's my build, it looks to be exactly the same as my signature.
Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:34 pm
by Sarumar
Mino wrote:Pyrizzle wrote:jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Welcome to the forums!
nice stats and collection of legendary and extraordinary items
You can add your stats to your signature
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I think that's my build, it looks to be exactly the same as my signature.
hmmm ...

.... stealing signatures is unpardonable crime.... This forum is only the place where we can trust each other
Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:22 pm
by nyktos
@Mino & Sarumar:
i think i see what's going on here...
first post: says -20% BC is a lot...
Ihminen wrote:Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
second post is showing a high level character with 27% BC...
jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
note: it's not a part of his signature...
Pyrizzle wrote:You can add your stats to your signature
User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature
sounds like a simple communication problem...
so, no worries.
Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:17 pm
by Piggy the Slayer
This is a very interesting thread. The dagger is a perfectly balanced trade off in order to get an extra attack.