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[S] High Level Skill - Sidestep
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
+1 nice skill, how about make it a bit more usefull. Instead of just bybass enemy you can make double move (move twice) in any direction. I also love to see level 3 of this skill = attack once when moving throught enemy space 

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Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
..dansing left foot polka with Hirathil
Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
Basically, if you have 12 AP and wear villains leather, or coward boots, or one of the Valugha items, you can move twice: sidestep (8-1) 7 AP, second movement (6-1) 5 AP.Sarumar wrote:+1 nice skill, how about make it a bit more usefull. Instead of just bybass enemy you can make double move (move twice) in any direction. I also love to see level 3 of this skill = attack once when moving throught enemy space
Or move three times, with the boots, Valugha's hat and the leather or the gown: 5AP+3AP+3AP
What about Shadowplay (or Play of Shadows)? Totally unique and fitting for this game!Wyrmspawn wrote:How about Shadowstep? Sounds slightly like you're on the side of the Shadow though...

(and on top of that there's that old song "shadowplay" from the former Marillion singer Fish)
Still playing this game at level 5, collected all extraordinaries, now some precious ring would be useful...
Lvl: 5, XP: 190789
GoLF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, ChaR: 1, ShaF: 1
Gold:28158, HP: 66, AC: 191%, AD: 10-17, AP: 3, CC: 0%, CM: 0, BC: -10%, DR: 0
Lvl: 5, XP: 190789
GoLF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, ChaR: 1, ShaF: 1
Gold:28158, HP: 66, AC: 191%, AD: 10-17, AP: 3, CC: 0%, CM: 0, BC: -10%, DR: 0
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
ahh.. yes and with level 3 on this skill.. when you got surrounded by enemy you choose to take chance (70%) and make special move.... *spiders everywhere.. im surroundet no hope.. need to do something desperate or die... perhaps my only hope is this secret move xxx and then i need just run... i desided to leave my fate to the hands of lady luck...Mad P wrote:Basically, if you have 12 AP and wear villains leather, or coward boots, or one of the Valugha items, you can move twice: sidestep (8-1) 7 AP, second movement (6-1) 5 AP.
Or move three times, with the boots, Valugha's hat and the leather or the gown: 5AP+3AP+3AP
i rush throught one of the spider and simultaneously stabbig it with my blade. I feel euphoria when i hear it screaming.... while moving farther of rest of them... now i need just run faster than them...*
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
I think it is fine with the 2 levels i suggested in the OP.
Being able to attack would potentially become overpowered.
Being able to attack would potentially become overpowered.
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
I've been thinking about this skill; I would like to use "sidestep" for low level builds also, and that's not possible when it is a high level skill that even requires combat speed (@ xp levels 15 and 30)...
So I would like it better if it was a movement option available for everyone, when standing next to a monster.
The sidestep should use 2*normal movement(6AP), so at low levels you'll have to equip the villain's leather and/or the coward boots to get it working.
Evasion should increase your chances of succes (we were looking for a new use of evasion anyway), like:
Normal (0 evasion): 20% chance of success
1 evasion: 35% chance of success
2 evasion: 50% chance of success
3 evasion: 65% chance of success
4 evasion: 80% chance of success
So I would like it better if it was a movement option available for everyone, when standing next to a monster.
The sidestep should use 2*normal movement(6AP), so at low levels you'll have to equip the villain's leather and/or the coward boots to get it working.
Evasion should increase your chances of succes (we were looking for a new use of evasion anyway), like:
Normal (0 evasion): 20% chance of success
1 evasion: 35% chance of success
2 evasion: 50% chance of success
3 evasion: 65% chance of success
4 evasion: 80% chance of success
Still playing this game at level 5, collected all extraordinaries, now some precious ring would be useful...
Lvl: 5, XP: 190789
GoLF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, ChaR: 1, ShaF: 1
Gold:28158, HP: 66, AC: 191%, AD: 10-17, AP: 3, CC: 0%, CM: 0, BC: -10%, DR: 0
Lvl: 5, XP: 190789
GoLF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, ChaR: 1, ShaF: 1
Gold:28158, HP: 66, AC: 191%, AD: 10-17, AP: 3, CC: 0%, CM: 0, BC: -10%, DR: 0
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
Intresting...Mad P wrote:I've been thinking about this skill; I would like to use "sidestep" for low level builds also, and that's not possible when it is a high level skill that even requires combat speed (@ xp levels 15 and 30)...
So I would like it better if it was a movement option available for everyone, when standing next to a monster.
The sidestep should use 2*normal movement(6AP), so at low levels you'll have to equip the villain's leather and/or the coward boots to get it working.
Evasion should increase your chances of succes (we were looking for a new use of evasion anyway), like:
Normal (0 evasion): 20% chance of success
1 evasion: 35% chance of success
2 evasion: 50% chance of success
3 evasion: 65% chance of success
4 evasion: 80% chance of success
Sarumar
..dansing left foot polka with Hirathil
Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
OP: I think the amount of AP required to use this skill should not be effected by equipment that lowers your movement (like vilains armor)
If it was made to be a skill for lower levels:
I think that the amount of AP required should be 10ap.
Consittering this is suppost to be a last resort all out dodge (or tumble) it would make sence that there is no time to try and mount any sort of attack.
If you want to make it broken, keep it as a high level skill with the requirments like i stated in the OP, if it is desired for a lower level player it should be NERFed quite a bit.
If it was made to be a skill for lower levels:
I think that the amount of AP required should be 10ap.
Consittering this is suppost to be a last resort all out dodge (or tumble) it would make sence that there is no time to try and mount any sort of attack.
If you want to make it broken, keep it as a high level skill with the requirments like i stated in the OP, if it is desired for a lower level player it should be NERFed quite a bit.
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May Elythara bless you and light your path!
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Player Name:Pyro
Lvl:24XP:244KAP:2/10HP:80AC: 189%AD:13-21CHS:-6CM: 0BC: 20%DR:2
IF:2Reg:2FSDW:1
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
Seeing it associated with evasion so much gave me an idea. Why don't we make it a real high level skill?
Prerequisites:
Evasion level4
Dodge Lv 2
Combat speed lv2

Prerequisites:
Evasion level4
Dodge Lv 2
Combat speed lv2
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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
What do you meanWyrmspawn wrote:q high level skill?


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Re: High Level Skill - Sidestep
I think so, the q sits very close to the a...tek wrote:What do you meanWyrmspawn wrote:q high level skill?A high level skill
Back to the proposal: a real high level skill.
I'm wondering why anyone should want this skill if it's only available at high levels.
When you're high level, you'll likely have high AC and AD, and probably high BC also. Then what's the need of sidestepping?
At low levels, however, sidestepping could be a way to bypass monsters.
Granted, that means no loot and no experience, but you'll be able to finish some quests by only fighting the necassary mobs (bosses) - and of course the monsters where the sidestep fails....

Still playing this game at level 5, collected all extraordinaries, now some precious ring would be useful...
Lvl: 5, XP: 190789
GoLF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, ChaR: 1, ShaF: 1
Gold:28158, HP: 66, AC: 191%, AD: 10-17, AP: 3, CC: 0%, CM: 0, BC: -10%, DR: 0
Lvl: 5, XP: 190789
GoLF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, ChaR: 1, ShaF: 1
Gold:28158, HP: 66, AC: 191%, AD: 10-17, AP: 3, CC: 0%, CM: 0, BC: -10%, DR: 0