Antison wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:54 pmThe ELyR is a two-handed sword. Hence, no dual wieldingAndorTrailssmoke wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:30 pmNote that I’m still trying to grind a RoLs but if I’m not wrong then if you dual wield Elthyrian Redeemers with 2x action point skill and JoF then you have a total of 16Ap with a 4Ap consumption rate... Its a lot less work to just get 6 attacks by DWing quickstrike daggers but hey!rijackson741 wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:41 am I have never understood the attraction of ELyR. You get a 2AP bonus, but for the most part that doesn't get you much. The attack cost is 5AP, so you get two attacks per round, which is what you would get without the 2AP bonus. If you invest skill points and get CS2 you get to 14AP, and you still only get 2 attacks per round. If you get JoF or Marrowtaint then the attack cost drops to 4AP, so you get 3 attacks per round with or without CS2. So the only benefit I see is that it makes Combat speed worthless, and you invest those skill points in something else. For a two-handed sword, the Gleaming claymore of ruin is better.
As far as HoF goes, the base stats are similar to the DP. But there's a reasonable chance of getting a condition that boosts both AC and BC by 20, which is significant. OK, there's also the possibility that your AC and BC will get nerfed by 20, but it's 4x less likely than the boost. I would rate it as the best helmet in the game. Not so much better than anything else that it's a must have item, but enough so that it's a nice to have (even very nice to have) item.
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Extraordinary and legendary items
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
Lvl70 Xp6,215,265 Hp206 Ac125 Ad24 Bc54 Dr2 MonstersK 41574 No gear better than Ex... on 6k Shadow gargoyle trainer/master kills across two characters
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
question: are legendary items unique? as in we cannot have more than one. I want 3 RoLS lol. and statisticly I should have gotten my second one but I still only have one.
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
You can get as many as you want can.
Lvl: 78, XP: 8622632, Gold: 271542, RoLS: 1, ElyR: -, RoL: -, ChaR: 1, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 1, VSH: 1, WMC: 1, GoW: 1
HP: 71, AC: 301%, AD: 38-47, AP: 3, ECC: 50%, CM: 3.75, BC: 101%, DR: 2
HP: 71, AC: 301%, AD: 38-47, AP: 3, ECC: 50%, CM: 3.75, BC: 101%, DR: 2
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
It is random, so statistically there is no point at which you "should get one".yok_sayilir wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:57 am question: are legendary items unique? as in we cannot have more than one. I want 3 RoLS lol. and statisticly I should have gotten my second one but I still only have one.

Level:75, XP:7656192, PV:866, FQ:105
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
yeah, I know how drop chances work
but when you kill double the avarage amount of monsters that would statisticly drop item, being a bit frustrated should be understandable 


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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
I found once you get your first then it goes faster.
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Then you are deceiving yourself. Unless you change your MF skill, it never goes faster, or slower.
Level:75, XP:7656192, PV:866, FQ:105
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
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My mf always got skill points I'm high on mine. But my luck got better imo my mf is at 77
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
I'm not a big believer in MF skill ..
If every skill point possible is put into MF skill, it creates a 60 out of 10,000 chance of obtaining a legendary item - HOWEVER, those are your chances every skirmish - the game does not count your skirmishes & give you credit for them..
I have an MF skill level of 3, @ level 111 &..
I have; 2 & 1/2 RoLS
1 RoL
1 EyR
1 HoF (5000 shamans!)
& 1 or 2 of each of the extraordinary
items...
Some were easy, some were extremely grueling..
Just sayin', it's all luck -
Sometimes you're the dog..
But usually you're the fire hydrant.
If every skill point possible is put into MF skill, it creates a 60 out of 10,000 chance of obtaining a legendary item - HOWEVER, those are your chances every skirmish - the game does not count your skirmishes & give you credit for them..
I have an MF skill level of 3, @ level 111 &..
I have; 2 & 1/2 RoLS
1 RoL
1 EyR
1 HoF (5000 shamans!)
& 1 or 2 of each of the extraordinary
items...
Some were easy, some were extremely grueling..
Just sayin', it's all luck -
Sometimes you're the dog..
But usually you're the fire hydrant.

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With legendary items, you are the fire hydrant 9999 times out of 10000

Level:75, XP:7656192, PV:866, FQ:105
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:226, AC:255, AD:47-61, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3.0, BC:192, DR:3
Gold: 241432 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, D:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1