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Redistributing level points or skill points

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Redistributing level points or skill points

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Hi,

I think will be fine with we could have a quest, or pay (a large sum?) or something to be able to re-apply the level points allready won. The Skill points too.

Since those points are hard to acquire and sometimes, early in the game, we do not have the correct notion of how they work, would be interesting if there is a possibility of re-think the all build. Or even to change it at all.

Thank you.
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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Belial wrote:Hi,

I think will be fine with we could have a quest, or pay (a large sum?) or something to be able to re-apply the level points allready won. The Skill points too.

Since those points are hard to acquire and sometimes, early in the game, we do not have the correct notion of how they work, would be interesting if there is a possibility of re-think the all build. Or even to change it at all.

Thank you.
They would have to change things like how Increased Fortitude works... because it affects you differently based on when you take it, and it would never be worth putting into again once you respec'd at a high level.

It's been tossed around, but I believe it's been shot down more than once.
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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Belial wrote:I think will be fine with we could have a quest, or pay (a large sum?) or something to be able to re-apply the level points allready won. The Skill points too.

Since those points are hard to acquire and sometimes, early in the game, we do not have the correct notion of how they work, would be interesting if there is a possibility of re-think the all build. Or even to change it at all.
This has already been discussed several times and since the game is a roguelike RPG and the fact that the redistribution would become broken then it was shot down. There are many good reasons why see below:

http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... nts+Change
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... set+skills
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... lls#p10450
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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:lol: In unison Stompp :lol: Posted at the same time with the same answer.
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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hmm...
i agree.... it would be great if those points could be relocated. (and powerfull option too) ... so i suggest that somewhere in realm of AT there are cracy wizard who can do it for some price like level × 10000 gold ... :twisted:
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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Could it be made so the reset cannot remove the points from a skill such as increased fortitude to keep the redistribution from becoming "broken"?
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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PK17 wrote:Could it be made so the reset cannot remove the points from a skill such as increased fortitude to keep the redistribution from becoming "broken"?
As pointed out in the previous threads this is not the only problem. One other problem would be the Magic Finder Skill. All you would have to do is redistribute all points into MF find all Legendary and Extrordinary items and then redistribute them off again. The same would go for quick learner and a couple of other skills.
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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Oh wow... I had not thought of that, good point. Hmmm... well besides making those skills "non-refundable" I can't think of anything.

Its just as simple as starting a new character anyway... or make a neutral character, not spend the skillpoints, then branch out into different play-styles. Besides you can never play too much AT. (Well until your fingers fall off)
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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There has been many threads on this (Thank you Fire for posting them here)

Magic Finder, Quick Learner, Treasure Hunter, and a few others would need to be non-refundable because it could be abused.

Read the threads posted by Fire and I am sure you will see quite a few responses that make the reasons why this shouldn't be added.
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Re: Redistributing level points or skill points

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Hi Friends,

Well, I see the point in the last posts, which such a re-apply skill and level points could lead to abuse or cheat.

My original intention is to redistribute those points in a better fashion now that I do have a better understanding of the game mechanics. Specially in what concerns the skill points. Since there is a kind of lack of explanation of those mechanics in game.

And I do have a better understanding now, after reading posts here, not playin the game.

So, I guess that a simple solution will be quest based. So the process of re-apply will be done only once.
If one would like to apply all those sill points in Magic Finder, fine, it can be done in the game any way. But those points will be in Magic Finder permanentlly after that.

The very existance of the Magic Finder Skill is kind of a cheat, if you look at it pure purpose.

And after all that, like said in this Legendary post, after rising MF to level 20 ou still have just 0.11% chance.
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=703

I think that percentage is still too low, to invest almost all skill points acquired after levelling to levell 80, just in MF.

Any way, thank you for the chance to post this. I apologize if I offend anyone, it´s just my point of view.
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