For low level Chars the QSD is not very worthfull:
> too low BC leads to hore hits from eneies if you can't kill them within one round, which is unlikely when your Char is not overpowered compared to the enemy
> against enemies with DR it is useless, when the result of real damage multiplied with no. of attacks is lower for QSD compared with a weapon like the stainless steel sword or the RoL.
For a high level Char nearly any weapon is overpowered: it doesn't really matter which weapon is used by a level 100 Char.
So my opion is: let the QSD as it is.
IF there is a need for battle changes I would rather discuss a change of the fight system itself (if the community is interested in new ideas I can introduce some and give an overview for the edges and draws).
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Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Welcome to the forums!jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Qsd is the strongest weapon in the game, once you have the levels to back it up... Not including crits, once you have a base damage of 15 you have a higher possible damage per round than any other weapon, but you also have to have the defense & accuracy to back it up... So I say leave it as it is! Especially since you have to be around level 25-30 and on the right build path before it really takes over as the best weapon in the game. imho ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Welcom to the forums and to the highscore board too (after you are added your stats on your signature).Pyrizzle wrote:Welcome to the forums!jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
Pyrizzle wrote:Welcome to the forums!jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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Lvl: 206 XP: 159262572, Gold: 1657119, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 6, SRoV: 1, VSH: 6, WMC: 1, GoW: 1
HP: 241, AP: 3, AC: 562%, AD: 116-130, CM: 3.0, ECC: 38%, BC: 139%, DR: 3
QL 25, MF 3
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
hmmm ...Mino wrote:Pyrizzle wrote:Welcome to the forums!jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
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User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signatureI think that's my build, it looks to be exactly the same as my signature.
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Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
..dansing left foot polka with Hirathil
Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
@Mino & Sarumar:
i think i see what's going on here...
first post: says -20% BC is a lot...
so, no worries.
i think i see what's going on here...
first post: says -20% BC is a lot...
second post is showing a high level character with 27% BC...Ihminen wrote:Its fine as it is, -20BC is alot.
Making other weapons more useful would be nice.
note: it's not a part of his signature...jericdsons wrote:Its gonna be a good idea in behalf sir! their's a great difference...
Lvl: 145, XP: 55322944, Gold: 900575, RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 2, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 2, SRoV: 1, VSH: 4
HP: 179, AP: 3, AC: 400%, AD: 103-110, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 27%,
Shadow Regeneration
IF: 1, Regen: 1, CE: 1, Cleave: 1, QL: 20, MF: 2
sounds like a simple communication problem...Pyrizzle wrote:You can add your stats to your signature
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so, no worries.
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Re: Quickstrike Dagger - Overpowered?
This is a very interesting thread. The dagger is a perfectly balanced trade off in order to get an extra attack.
Level:145 AC: 428% BC:170% DR:4 AD:78-90 AP:12 HP:750 BSS.