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Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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Trying to learn as much as I can about how the game actually works. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the amount of action points you have. I have been experimenting on how to get a higher "first attack" numbers. Does it matter who initiated contact with the other?
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Re: Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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Chest_Rockfield wrote:Trying to learn as much as I can about how the game actually works. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the amount of action points you have. I have been experimenting on how to get a higher "first attack" numbers. Does it matter who initiated contact with the other?
I think whoever initates the fight will automatically get first strike, So if you run into the baddy you get first strike but if he/she runs into you he/she would get first strike.

If i understand Evasion correctly it should also effect wither or not the monster would move into you, thus giving you more of a chance for a first hit (since you would initate the battle instead of the baddy).

I hope this helps, if there is a programer who can explain this better than me i would love to hear it, but i think i have a good understanding of this subject.

I had just posted something about Evasion on the (Testers)V.0.6.10 thread earlier today.
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Re: Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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Sure seems like even though I come flying up on a guy that's not moving he still occasionally hits me first. Could it be that a microsecond before I run into him he sees me and moves at me? I guess, but we move so much faster than the monsters it seems unlikely. I tend to think that movement points may play a role. Please someone "in the know" let us know.
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Re: Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

Post by Black Wind »

"in the know" wouldn't be me, :D I've saved games to test that type of thing before though. Sometimes I load and the monster hits first, sometimes I load the same game and evade then come back for the first hit. So the monster moving at the character seems unlikely given speed and time, but must be since I got that to go both ways a few times from one save.
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Re: Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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May not be "in the know" but that was some very useful information. (I think I'm supposed to do this: +1 to you now?) So you didn't have to move spots to get to the monster on the save? Otherwise that would leave room for my movement points theory...
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Re: Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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evasion, all day long!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

no kidding - YET AGAIN - the text on the skill page is misleading...
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Pyrizzle wrote:I hope this helps, if there is a programer who can explain this better than me i would love to hear it...
You mean programmer or progamer? :D :D :D

It has been discussed before:
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?p=6432#p6432

Right before the topic got faaaar OffTopic.
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So there's no way to estimate and/or reduce the first attack based on them running into you? Too bad...
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Re: Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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Chest_Rockfield wrote:So there's no way to estimate and/or reduce the first attack based on them running into you? Too bad...
evasion, i thought i said that...

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Re: Can someone tell me how it is decided who attacks first?

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He said that if a monster runs into you it will always attack first...
Lvl: 162, XP: 77,249,000, Gold: 2,508,000 RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, ChaR: 18, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 2
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